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I am trying to sign in but I can can u help me Scott mcCold (discusscontribs) 17:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

See . Use the Login or Register WikiMedia button at the bottom of the page. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:15, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

New category for openstax textbooks[edit]

Is Category:Openstax file a good category for images and pdf files downloaded from openstax college? They have an image category on commons, but this is easier to remember.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 18:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Looks fine. The one attribution looks very good. You should tag the others as CC-BY-NC-SA as soon as possible. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
I did the "quick fix" and will attempt to copy the detailed attribution requirements for each book when I get to work where I have two computer screens in front of me (one to read the other to copy/paste).--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 01:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dave!

The software content management system Drupal appears to be complete and ready for learners and programmers. What do you think? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 16:10, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

It's not my project. I worked on the main page to provide a good overview, but the rest is from an unidentified real-world class. The only subpage that has notable content is the Installation page, but even that isn't complete, as there are two empty headings at the bottom of the page.
You could check with the authors of that page and see if they are planning additional content and if they would like to have that lesson listed as news. The overall project is neither complete nor ready. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:17, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Data Networking[edit]

Hi Dave!

For an entry under Main Page News, how about "25 December: Data Networking/Fall 2016 is completed and ready for learners and networkers"? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 17:04, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

It's not my project. I just organized the content. The students appear to have completed their work around December 6. You could list December 10 if you're looking for a round number. I would indicate that it 'is complete' rather than 'is completed', which I believe would be more accurate as 'was completed', and puts the focus on the completion rather than on the resource. Also, I would leave off "and networkers". I don't know anyone in the industry who refers to themselves as a networker. That term tends to be applied to business or social networking rather than computer or data networking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:22, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

I would like to make some templates[edit]

My students and I will be copying excerpts from openstax books, and the license requires attribution plus a link stating where the book can be downloaded. I could make the templates in my usersubspace, but I am pretty sure they belong in template space. How about Template:openstax/College Physics, Template:openstax/University Physics I, ... ?--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Other than starting Openstax with a capital O, those make sense to me. I just noticed that OpenStax is actually spelled with a capital S on their site, but I think that would confuse everyone in terms of template naming. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:57, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

A short interview about your contribution[edit]

Hi, I am a master's degree student from Norway writing a paper about e-learning. You seam to have done alot here and could help me alot by filling in answers to these questions.

Choose one of your courses want to highlight and use that to answer the rest of the questionnaire

1. What course did you choose, and when did this project/course begin developing?

2. Did you makes the course alone or with others?

3. Do you know how many participants has taken the course?

4. Does it cost anything to join the course?

5. Are there any requirements or preferred background needed to join the course?

6. How many complete their courses in relation to how many starts a course?

7. How do you measure the success of the course?

8. Have you encountered technical difficulities making the course?

9. How do you communicate to the course students?

10. Do you have any ideas about how the platform(wikiversity) could be improved?

11. Did you make the courses more suitable for individuals, groups or a mix of the two?

12. Are there any set time limits as to when the courses should be completed, or is it flexible for the student to decide?

13. Is there some form of test or task to complete in the course?

14. Do you give out course diploma if someone completes your course?

15. Are the courses you make used by external companies or are they exclusive for Wikiversity?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bektair (talkcontribs) at 3 February 2017

Response sent by wiki email. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:49, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Accidental creation of account User:Cruiz12[edit]

A confusion with a student caused us to accidentally create User:Cruiz12, which was not needed because the account already existed as User:Cruiz20. We never created his user page. I presume that we just do nothing and let nature take it's course and let wikimedia eventually delete User:Cruiz12, right?--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 14:40, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

User accounts are never deleted. They just continue. The student could use either account, but shouldn't use both. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Moving student work into a specific category[edit]

Hi Dave,

I am planning on doing another wikiversity assignment with my students. Question: How can they make sure that their page is showing up in the "Digital Media Concepts" category? What markup do they need to use? Thanks, Dave. Ireicher2 (discusscontribs) 20:32, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

@Ireicher2: To put a page in the Digital Media Concepts category, they would add [[Category:Digital Media Concepts]] at the bottom of the page. To include the page in the Digital Media Concepts learning project as a subpage, they should use Digital Media Concepts/<their page> as the page title. I cleaned up last semester's project list. Feel free to undo my changes if that's not what you were looking for. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:01, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Awesome. Thank you. Ireicher2 (discusscontribs) 21:36, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi ! How are you ?

I'm really sorry, but I do not have enough time left to be a curator. I won't use the specific curator's tools any more. But I will keep on trying to participate as a simple contributor on Wikiversity.

Thanks for all.

--Thierry613 (discusscontribs) 17:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, and thanks for your help at Wikiversity. You remain approved by the community should you have more time in the future. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:40, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
ok. --Thierry613 (discusscontribs) 18:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Project Management/Risk graphic[edit]

Dave, there's a graphic used in the page you authored for Project Management/Risk. The graphic is credited to user Job89 and is here:

Do you know if Job89 is the original author as stated? Trying to find the copyright holder for it. Thanks.

Cparis3 (discusscontribs) 02:33, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

@Cparis3: The Project Management learning project is student-driven. I created the template, but students develop the content. Separately, Job89 was a student working on the Motivation and Emotion learning project. Based on my experience with students in that project and the files they upload, I suspect it is not an original work and should be deleted from Commons. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:41, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanking And Asking for help[edit]

Thank you Dave Sir, Please let me know how to do editing in wikiversity. All the basic knowledge. Subhanshu Dhanraj (discusscontribs) 15:31, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

You should probably start with Help:The original tour for newcomers. It's a bit old, but includes basic editing. You might also visit Wikipedia:Help:Editing and Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing. Wikipedia and Wikiversity run the same base software, so most Wikipedia technology how-to articles apply here as well. Beyond that, I recommend selecting a subject that interests you and be bold! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:53, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

emoji usage[edit]

Hi Dave. I'm not clear on the style guide. I'm working on the Russian pages. Gender of words is very important in Russian. Can I use emojis on Wikiversity? e.g. ♀️? Further, what is the guidance on using material from wikibooks? I would like to incorporate large portions of the Russian wikibook into the versity...

I don't recall any restrictions on emojis. Using gender symbols makes sense for the Russian learning project. My only concern on emojis in general would be any issues regarding font display in different browsers with different country settings. It may be fine, but I don't have much experience with it.
The only restrictions on using Wikibooks content is that use must adhere to the CC-BY-SA license. For our purposes, that means referencing the source. The best way to do that is to have the content imported. See Wikiversity:Imports to post import requests. However, I would also argue that there is no benefit to duplication of efforts. Wikiversity learning projects based on Wikibooks readings work very well. See Information Systems/Introduction for an example of this approach.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the quick response and references.


How do I archive your 'welcome'? one small glitch, it seems one has to create an account in order to view ... or I get an error page. Oh, nevermind, I am reading how to archive talk page... interested in robot-archive. Nice meeting you. and check this article of mine on RG -->

Allthingsgo (discusscontribs) 21:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

We don't have any bot archiving these days. Long ago there was one, but nothing for the past few years. You are welcome to delete / archive whatever you like on your user pages. Regarding the RG link, Wikiversity has a very different culture and approach than Wikipedia. Here, a better approach than user-space pages and categories is learning projects and subpages. Look around and let us know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Ambox emblem question m.png[edit]


Prima facia it seems that {{#invoke: ping | ping }} did manually transfered File:Ambox emblem question m.png from wikiversity to wikimedia commons. During this process History of the file and licencing has not been transfered properly, and has now been nominated for deletion at wikimedia commons.

Undersigned reuests you to undelet the file and bring to original status so that it can be transfered to wikimedia commonce once again with due process.

Both of you if you are not aware I suppose wikimedia commons has some special tool to transfer files from sister projects. Using that tool may reduce these hassles.

Thanks and warm regards

Mahitgar (discusscontribs) 13:43, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

@Mahitgar: 15px Done Thanks for letting me know. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the same I have added the cc-by-sa-3.0 to the Commons file. Please do whatsoever necessary at the local version --Tiven2240 (discusscontribs) 13:56, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Will reach out to you via telephone[edit]

About the Wikiversity science journal initiative. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (discusscontribs) 02:27, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

@Leprof 7272: Please contact me by email using Special:EmailUser/Dave_Braunschweig. We get too many spam calls and don't answer unrecognized numbers. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:36, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Former big ten univ prof, calling academic to academic. This is not business suited to email. Call will come at Harper. Le Prof (discuss) 13:59, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Academic to academic, please email your contact information. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:25, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Need this page restored ASAP[edit]

Dave I made the error of deleting it before I can copy it on a google doc. Please restore Garbage Patches as fast as you can. Thanks. -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:47, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:49, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. To improve Wikiversity I'd like this page and History of the Pen to be restored after a certain amount of time (basically, after the teacher grades the essays). I'm afraid my teachers might search up my essay and find Wikiversity and accuse me of plagiarizing. I don't want to go in detail with my WV-related work as well. -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:52, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
May you restore History of the Pen? -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 17:18, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:22, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Re: Thanks[edit]

It's just my "job" :). Devwebtel (discusscontribs) 20:26, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


Hi. I'm really sorry about that edit you reverted. I didn't even mean to vandalize. I clicked "Edit" to view the source. I unknowingly saved the accidental edit. Thank You For Your Antivandal work! CopernicusAD (discusscontribs) 20:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

No worries. Welcome to Wikiversity! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I've just been locked out of my own project?[edit]

And most of the content has been blown away? Can I get edit rights back?...

Sorry, the protection was supposed to go on the main page rather than the subpage. Check page history. All of the edits are there, but you may need to go back to get the last 3,000 characters or so. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok! I think I understand what happened. Thanks for catching it and protecting the page. Did our TAs not configure the site correctly? I can message them but would you know what they need to do to prevent our sites from showing up publicly? Much appreciated!

When your classmates create their new pages, they just need to make sure they put them under Data Networking/Spring 2017. Otherwise, we can move them there. The problem was that I moved and you saved at the same time, resulting in two copies. Then I tried to merge them, and all that was left was the new copy, with the old content in history. I'll edit the Spring 2017 page to make it easier to see how to add the subpages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. It's probably my fault, I added a new page which I thought was under the Spring 2017 folder because the site url was showing Data Networking/Spring 2017 in the path... I suppose if you could add some hints on how to do this correctly on the Spring 2017 page it would help a lot, since there will be like 15 sites there in the coming week or so. Thanks again. I'll message our TAs and students in our forum.

Inputbox added. This should be much easier now. Let your classmates and TAs know. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Community of Practice[edit]

Hello, Dave.

As I'm not sure whether my edit on my userpage will reach you, I want to make sure that the message reaches you by dropping a commment on your page. I'm an university student who, as a part of my course, has to create a Wikiversity page about one of the chosen academic subjects. I will work on my page in upcoming 2-3 weeks as a part of this course so you don't have to worry that I'm doing something nasty like creating blank pages for no particular reason.

Cheers. Kostur Kosturlel (discusscontribs) 09:36, 3 April 2017 (CET)

As noted above, "If I leave a message on your talk page, I will watch for your response there." Answered on User talk:Kosturlel. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dave,

The "Readings" left on the Atlantis research page troubles me. While I look for current archaeological evidence of a paradigm shift of science supporting Atlantis in the Azores using recent scientific discussions other researches look to site discussions of they feel to be fables.


I really think that the documentation here is in two separate categories. Could there be a way to separate these two obviously different areas of research and what they hope to accomplish?

I guess what I am asking is do "Research Projects" and "Readings" belong together under research projects under the same Atlantis heading?

When may the label "Fringe Science" be removed from the Atlantis in the Azores research project?

Maybe I would be better off removing all references of "Atlantis" and re-name the whole thing "Large Submerged Atlantic island hypothesis". This wold allow me to shed the label "Atlantis" and all of the controversy.

Furthermore, if Atlantis is a Myth then why do they insist it existed on Thera in a different time than indicated in Plato's "readings"?


RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 02:10, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

There seem to be separate issues here. The readings are readings about Atlantis from Wikipedia. If they are no longer relevant to a resource on Atlantis, that's an issue to take up at Wikipedia. As to when your own research wouldn't be considered fringe, I think by definition, it's when you have peer-reviewed acceptance as a legitimate hypothesis for whatever you are researching. You might try submitting to the WikiJournal of Science and see if there is anyone willing to review your work there. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:39, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


I tried to submit the Atlantis Location Hypothesis to the Wiki Journal of Science. However, it did not turn out so well. Perhaps you can correct my mistakes and see that it makes it? Can we preserve the site somewhere as it is today. Undoubtedly it needs revision but I'd like to save the original.


RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 02:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not an editor or reviewer for the WikiJournal of Science. Try checking with User:Guy vandegrift. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Editing Internet Text[edit]


On Saturday I created a page: Titles in translation ( in translation). On Sunday it was moved to my user space. This page should be a subpage at Internet Texts in Student projects so I tried to move this page there but unfortunately I don't know how to do it and I don't want to make something wrong. Could you help me?

Thank you in advance for all your help.

Katharina199317 (discusscontribs) 19:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

@Katharina199317: 15px Done Also, note that <br> is not necessary when editing wiki pages. In general, you shouldn't need HTML at all. Also, internal wiki page links are created using [[Editing Internet Texts]] syntax. This allows the "What links here" tool to work correctly. Enjoy! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:34, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello Dave,
My students are confused about creating subpages to the project main page at Editing Internet Texts , as you can judge yourself by looking at, for instance, what user Annmarczuk did with Editing Internet Texts/American Exceptionalism and National Myths in John F. Kennedy's Rhetoric
Apparently, she wanted to create a set of subpages, but something went wrong (I assume that subsubpages are not automatically listed on the main project page). I wish I could help her but I don't know what she really did so I need to bother you again. Incidentally, is there any help file/Wikiversity document explaining how <inputbox> really works?
Thanks! --Iszmael (discusscontribs) 19:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Annmarczuk did fine. The problem was in using {{Subpages/List}}, which picks up all subpages rather than only the first level of subpages. I've changed this to listing each student project individually. There's currently no automated way to do this as far as I know. Documentation for inputbox is available at mw:Extension:InputBox. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:03, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Dave, that helps. --Iszmael (discusscontribs) 21:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)


unfortunately, I must bother you with a similar issue to the one at the top of the thread. My project Introduction to audio description (Introduction to audio description) should also be a subpage to Editing Internet Texts project.

But again I am not sure how to move it. Could you help?

Thank you in advance for patience and help.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MarB94 (talkcontribs) at 10 April 2017

@MarB94: 15px Done . Also, note that wiki page links are usually better as internal links. See Help:Links for more information. If you'd like to learn more about moving pages yourself, see meta:Help:Moving a page -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Dave,

My page Machine translation is supposed to be a subpage of Editing Internet Texts, but I am not sure how can I move it myself. I would be grateful if you could help me.

Thanks in advance. --Skibaskiba (discusscontribs) 10:36, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Skibaskiba: 15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

A trial for an educational topic[edit]

I tried a topic about Quaternionic Field Equations on my personal user talk. I used special fonts to create formulas. I am sure that this is not the preferred way to present mathematical formulas, but it appears to work. I use this method also in the discussion threads at ResearchGate and I apply the method at Is this way of generating formulas tolerated at Wikiversity? I give an example below:

     ϕ = ∇ ψ = ϕᵣ + 𝟇 = (∇ᵣ + 𝞩 ) (ψᵣ + 𝟁) = ∇ᵣ ψᵣ − ⟨𝞩,𝟁⟩ + ∇ᵣ 𝟁 + 𝞩 ψᵣ ±𝞩 × 𝟁

It is fairly easy to prepare this text in MS Word. It is a mixture of fonts. The advantage is that the formulas stay readable in edit format.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by HansVanLeunen (talkcontribs) at 11 April 2017

@HansVanLeunen: It would depend on whether or not users would be likely to have those fonts installed. When using special fonts, you have no idea what I see on my end, and whether or not the symbols you selected match the formula I see. In particular, you can't test the results on your own system. You would need to use some type of generic setup to see the results. You might try using a mobile platform to see what the pages look like in that environment. See meta:Help:Displaying a formula for information on Mediawiki-supported formula formats and advantages of each. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:04, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: You convinced me. I will try to write the formulas in the standard fonts of the editor.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 20:42, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: I prepared a trial for an educational topic that uses the formula editor in my sandbox and after that, I copied it to my personal talk page. I tried to add links to wiki terms, but that does not seem to work.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 20:43, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: Have you seen Help:Linking? Do you have a specific example of what it is that does not seem to work? How do you know that it isn't working? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:06, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: I am now seriously trying to generate the Hilbert Book Model project. For that reason, I published already two pages that are meant to become part of that project. I searched around, but I found no clue how to combine these pages into a new project. The Pages are Hilbert Book Model and Quaternionic Field Equations. If I am doing things wrong then I hope that someone corrects me. Greathings, Hans --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 12:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: What name (title) do you want for the learning project? Also, please see Help:Linking and Help:Subpages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:39, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: Thanks for your great help. I have created the Hilbert Book Model Project Hilbert Book Model Project. I wonder whether it has sense to covert it to an original research project. How can this be done? Start with a template or adapt the current project such that it becomes a research project?--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 12:51, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: This is a third request. Please see Help:Linking. We do not use HTTP/HTTPS links when linking to wiki pages. Internal links, using [[Title]] syntax can be tracked by the wiki software. External HTTP/HTTPS links are not tracked. Regarding the Hilbert Book Model Project, based on the comment at [1], I think the only option for this project is to tag it as original research, using {{Original research}} at the top. It may also be tagged as {{Fringe}} science, but I'll leave that determination to someone with more physics background than I have. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Template:Remark to I started the Hilbert Book Model Project and turned it into an original research project. I do not understand well how the mechanism works that adds pages to the project based on internal links. Can I trigger that mechanism? I hope that I have the links now correctly installed. Can I define internal links to page sections?
Greathings, Hans --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 10:00, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
See Help:Linking. It addresses all of these questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Delete my css page[edit]

Hello Dave Braunschweig, I have seen that you have deleted my Userpages as requested. Please delete the page User:Labant/common.css also. Thanks. --Labant (discusscontribs) 04:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Moving text from Quadratic to Parabola[edit]

Hi Dave, I noticed your comment and the changes which you made. Many thanks for your attention to this matter. 

Are the moves which I made now OK?

--ThaniosAkro (discusscontribs) 13:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, they're fine. Something I overlooked initially is that you are the original contributor for both parts, so the reference wasn't necessary in this case. But it's still a good habit to get into. The software records who contributes, so just commenting where a big move came from and where it went to covers everything if there are questions later. Thanks for checking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Please delete Hilbert Book Model Project/Quaternionic Hilbert space[edit]

The interlink "Quaternionic Hilbert space" in Hilbert Book Model Project kept behaving curiously. It appeared as a red link. It is not changed to a working link. For that reason, I copied the page content to a page named "Quaternionic Hilbert Spaces" and changed the interlink in Hilbert Book Model Project into the new name. I kindly request you to delete the page "Hilbert Book Model Project/Quaternionic Hilbert space" from the system such that the new page can take its place. Sincerely yours, Hans van Leunen. --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 08:54, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Page names in Mediawiki software are unique. Upper case, lower case, singular, and plural are four separate pages. You must link to the correct page in order for a red link to become active. If a page is named incorrectly, you can rename it yourself using the Move option. See meta:Help:Moving a page for more information. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:46, 23 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello. I'm just starting in as a Wikimedian in Residence for them: they are a non-profit startup in Cambridge UK, working on text and data mining. I have been asked to comment on their use of Wikiversity for research and planning, which currently amounts to one co-ordination page, and a couple of subpages of it.

Could you give me a steer on acceptable use of Wikiversity pages? For example, on what might be better placed in userspace.

This request is prompted by an imminent fellowship programme, which would be recruiting mostly from academic researchers. My working assumption is that details of that process would be more acceptable if hosted outside mainspace. Charles Matthews (discusscontribs) 08:30, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Welcome, and congratulations on your fellowship! Quite simply, user space is best used for personal work, such as drafts that you don't want anyone else to assist with and don't intend to be shared and edited by others. Public or shared work is better as subpages of a larger project. If your work is consistent with the Wikiversity:Mission, subpages of ContentMine or a similar project should be fine. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:04, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, that's a helpful clarification. Charles Matthews (discusscontribs) 13:18, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
{{#invoke: ping | ping }} I find myself using my subspace more and more. A while back Dave showed us all a trick that can be used to shrink the words User:"username" in the title down to nothing. I did this on User:Guy vandegrift/Editorial tricks. You just need to place this at the top of your page:
{{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="font-size:0">{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/</span>{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}
Yours truly, and "Cheers!" Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 12:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

I may have brought a large number of visitors to Wikiversity[edit]


On April 24-th I added links on Wikipedia:OpenStax_College to pdf files of three of their textbooks. In two days that got over 100 viewers per day. I was not making a deliberate effort to promote Wikiversity (something Wikipedia might frown on). But I posted the textbooks on Wikiversity several months ago without really thinking about this possibility. -- Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 19:23, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Update-all those visitors might have been bots or something. The visit rate dropped off after the first two days. Oh well...__Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 14:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
It's hard to say. Even doing a refresh or edit yourself will trigger a hit. The thing that will trigger visits for awhile is adding a resource to the news area on the front page. I'd like to see us eliminate or consolidate the Community and Development blocks and have more space dedicated to new or featured resources. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:51, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Something changed overnight with inline formulas[edit]

Since yesterday and without warning the editing tool does no longer support inline math formulas. I use inline formulas mainly for the discussion of the variables of functions. The change of behavior of the editor is annoying and stops me from further generating scientific text.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 08:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

The MediaWiki software is updated on Tuesdays. I don't use the math functions, so I don't have any information to assist you. Check phabricator: to see if someone has already reported this issue and any potential work-arounds. If the issue hasn't been reported, you can create a new task and report it. Be specific in describing the problem and how it can be recreated. Be sure to test using multiple browsers and/or multiple computers to be sure it isn't an issue on your end. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:41, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

I reported the editor behavior. It got task Nr T165096 Thanks for your help, Hans --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 07:37, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Link for easier followup: phab:T165096 --AKlapper (WMF) (discusscontribs) 10:10, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikiversity and University Courses[edit]

Hello! I was referred to you after making My Post in the Colloquium. Let me know if you have any thoughts about this, Thanks!- Popcrate (discusscontribs) 12:18, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Welcome! Answered in the Colloquium. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:40, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Computational fluid dynamics[edit]

Well done! That made the CFD page much better!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Femfons (talkcontribs) at 14 May 2017‎

Template:At As indicated at [2], solicitation for external organizations and websites is not accepted. The page you linked to is a for-profit resource. If you'd like, you are welcome to link to Wikipedia:FeatFlow instead. If users are interested, they'll follow up from there. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:21, 15 May 2017 (UTC)


Rayleigh 22 (John Garner)


Is there any way I can get permission to use this map...

...on the Atlantis Location Hypothesis? I need you to direct me on how I can do this so I will not have to ask you to do it all of the time. Thanks!

As I told Sidelight22, I use the computer at three different places, at work where I am now, at home and at my son's house occasionally. That's why I have 3 IP addresses. Just an FYI. I am not 3 people, OK?

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 11:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

No. See . But you also don't need to use this map. There are open alternatives available. See Commons:Category:Mid-Atlantic Ridge as a starting point. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:24, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Got the e-mail with the page you gave me as an e-mail today. Is it possible to use as a reference as a hyperlink?

I will use the map you suggest. Thanks.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 23:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


A some point I need to get the new re-organized Atlantis Location Hypothesis out of the sandbox. I need Marshallsumter to approve it because I used his Iberian section to prove the levels of the ocean were low enough to expose the MAR and Azores Plateau.

My whole idea of super volcano eruption has changed because of an explanation I found as to why they erupt. It turns out it is not so much a pressure phenomena as it is an idea of magma escaping around the borders of the lithosphere plug due to the pressure of the lithosphere on the caldera. IF the magma of the caldera goes down, as it would cause the lithosphere plug to fall into caldera pushing the magma out. You can picture it in your mind what happens next.

Please advise and if you have a chance drop Marshallsumter a note to see if he objects. If he does I will come up with something else but it will not be nearly so elegant as his piece. (discuss) 11:47, 25 May 2017 (UTC) RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 11:48, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Please continue this discussion with User:Marshallsumter. I am not involved in the Atlantis project and have not sent you any email messages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:16, 25 May 2017 (UTC)


Would it be possible to start putting the reorganized Atlantis Location Hypothesis from the sandbox located at... Somewhere more prominent so that it would be more visible?

I have a lot of work ahead of me on this.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 03:44, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At See Talk:Atlantis/Location Hypotheses#First review summary. As you have noted, you have a lot of work ahead of you on this. It is not ready for greater visibility. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:03, 8 June 2017 (UTC)


Dear Dave, I have created the Hilbert Book Model Project in English. It now contains 16+ pages. English is not my native language. So I have translated already six pages back to Dutch and used the translation template to link the top level pages. That works fine. But I also tried to link lower level pages via the translation template. I have not yet found a way to achieve this. Wikiversity does not yet support the Dutch (nl) Wikiversity. For me that is not a big problem. Most educated Dutch people can read English. However, a Dutch Hilbert Book Model Project at Wikiversity may be a great help for students. The links work perfectly at the toplevel. So, I am eager to know how I can link multilanguage pages horizontally in a project. Gr, Hans. HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 21:41, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The {{Translations}} template appears to work correctly as is. See Hilbert Book Model Project/Hilbert Book Model/nl. Note that support for Dutch Wikiversity would be at until a sufficient number of regular contributors is identified. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:04, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Dave, The translations template indeed works properly in the way that you indicate. However the link at the top points to the English version and is inaccessible to the author of the page. I added an extra link. That seems to work. Thanks, Hans HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 09:36, 27 May 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dave Braunschweig!

The above .pdf and three others uploaded by Professor John R. Brashear MBA, CPA, appear to be for use in his courses at Texas A&M University Corpus Christi. I was about to delete all four per no license as noted by your bot. These can also be fair use for now rather than deleted. Do you have any info on their use or would you like me to contact him about them? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 15:59, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

These files cannot be tagged as Fair Use. Fair Use requires use, and the files are not being used. Users also can't claim their own work as fair use. They own the copyright. You need to either work with Professor Brashear to apply proper licensing to the files, or delete them consistent with Wikiversity policy. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:40, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
He was an adjunct professor for the spring semester using these. Term and courses over so I deleted all! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 00:01, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

How can i add my page to the Editing internet texts page[edit]

i am a student of that course and i have to add my website to this page Editing Internet Texts and i don't know how to do it, because i tried to submit it in the format on the page but it doesn't work. Can you explain me how can i do it? thank you.

i'm User:Jam6s !

Template:At 15px Done . On the More tab there is a Move option. The page was moved to Editing Internet Texts/The Concept of Time in Literature. See Wikipedia:Help:How to move a page for more information. Also note that internal links are created using [[Title]] syntax rather than http links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)



I'm working on my project Editing Internet Texts/Titles in translation and I wanted to include some movie posters and videos to make my project more interesting. I don't know if there is any possibility to put here a video from any website? I didn't find any trailers on Wikimedia Commons and I don't want to upload new files too, so I decided to create some external links with trailers. However I didn't solve the problem with pictures. I found some movie posters on Wikipedia and I thought I could include them like any other image here. Unfortunately they don't work. I tried it with these 2 files: The Lord of the Rings and The Fate of the Furious. I opened 2 square brackets and then without spaces I copied the name of the file and closed the brackets twice, like that: File:Ringstrilogyposter.jpg. As you can see, instead of an image I've got a red link and I don't know what is the reason for that.

I will be very thankful for any advice.

Katharina199317 (discusscontribs) 18:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The videos you are looking for are copyrighted. They can't be added here. External links are the best way to go. Any Wikipedia images that aren't already at Commons are also copyrighted images, only available at Wikipedia through Fair Use. Technically, it should be possible to save those images and then upload them here with the same Fair Use copyright information. It's a little bit of work, but if the image is already at Wikipedia, it probably would remain here without any external complaints. When you upload the images, just be sure to add the Wikipedia copyright information and {{Fair use}} license tag. You can list Wikipedia as the source, but link to the actual Wikipedia file, such as Wikipedia:File:Ringstrilogyposter.jpg. Use internal [[title]] links rather than external http links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Project: Language and vision of the world: translation issues in Polish and Italian[edit]

Dear Dave Braunschweig, I am a student completing my project for the Editing Internet Texts class. Yesterday I tried to move my project (whose title is: Language and vision of the world: translation issues in Polish and Italian) from the sandbox to the subpage Language and vision of the world:translation issues in Polish and Italian included in the page Editing Internet Texts, but I did something wrong and my project does not appear there. Can you help me to move it in the right page? Thank you very much in advance for your help. I'm User: Beinegeria

Template:At 15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:04, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Editing Internet Texts[edit]

Dear Dave, I just want to thank you on behalf of my students and myself for your patience and help you offered and your expertise in solving their and my problems related to using Wikiversity. My summer semester class is over, yet the students got so much interested in their projects and Wiki that most of them plan to develop the projects further. Hopefully I'll continue teaching the class next academic year and I'll be looking forward to your kind assistance. Iszmael (discusscontribs) 21:01, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At You and they are welcome! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:06, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Informal learning activities[edit]


Some time ago you helped me get going on setting up the Informal learning activities Wikiversity project.

That was some time ago, so long that I've forgotten how we communicated then. I seem to have finally got something usable going but I need some help and advice.

Are you the best person to advise me whether it's suitable to set up and to help me set it up for use? If not, please put me in touch with the best person.

Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 11:17, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Since I don't know what you asking about / for yet, I can't say who is the best person to assist with it. You can either ask here or ask in the Wikiversity: Colloquium or in Wikiversity: Request custodian action if it's something only a custodian can do. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:47, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

JCCAP FDF Page[edit]

Hi, Dave,

We haven't met before. I just reverted the relocation of the JCCAP FDF page to /Overview, and wanted to give you some context. We are experimenting with using Wikiversity pages to support the teaching element of activities at conferences. We anticipate adding a daughter branch to the tree each year if this model works. We have several things pointing to this page already that are external to Wikiversity (email threads, listserv posts), so a relocation would create a lot of misconnects and confusion.

If there's a really strong reason to move the page, please backchannel with me and let's discuss. My email is, and I am Eyoungstrom on Wikipedia as well as Wikiversity. You clearly have waaaaaaaay more experience and programming skills that we do on our team, so if you are interested in offering suggestions or helping refine pages or think through how to optimize this initiative, I would be more than grateful.

Thanks a ton for all you are contributing to Wikiversity! Eyoungstrom (discusscontribs) 14:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Wikiversity discussions are public. We don't do off-wiki discussions unless there are privacy issues involved (minors, personally-identifiable information not posted by the user themselves, etc.).
There are two primary issues with JCCAP FDF/. The first, and the immediate reason for the correction is that we don't have pages ending with a /. The / indicates subpage rather than a main page. Since JCCAP FDF already exists, this page is clearly intended to be a subpage of that resource and should be moved there, unless it should be merged with it instead. If the name Overview is inappropriate, please rename it to something else. The second issue is one of overall structure. Wikiversity is structured more like Wikibooks, in that a given learning project, particularly by the same author(s), has multiple subpages rather than separate main pages. If necessary. For now, I've changed JCCAP FDF/ to redirect to the main JCCAP FDF article. The content originally under JCCAP FDF/ is available at [3]. You can use that link to copy the content and create an appropriate subpage or merge with the main JCCAP FDF content.
This sounds like a very interesting use for Wikiversity. Let me know what questions you have and any additional assistance you might need. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi, again! We are editing at the same time (I just lost my first addition here as I had the page open as the same time as you were replying! :-)). I realized that Adelosreyes had added a new page; I had mistakenly thought he was editing the landing page. Then I had mistakenly thought you had moved the top level landing page without a redirect. I see why we don't end pages in "/" -- fooled me! I also figured out that we were working at the same time -- I went to undo my reversion, and you had already beaten me to it.
I think that the structure we intend follows the convention you describe:

Top-- JCCAP_FDF Next Level-- One per year, describing program and specific didactic contents; Overview page could reside here or be merged with top (I will talk with Adelosreyes to figure out the plan) Third Level-- Daughter pages for specific content

Grateful for your attention and guidance. I smiled at the context for declining to email. I am struck by how different the culture of Wiki is from what I am used to in the rest of academia (at least in social sciences and medicine). Most of the people involved in the conference are on email, few on Wiki, so this particular project is likely to generate some slips as different workstyles collide. I appreciate your graciousness with that, too. Warmest regards!

Eyoungstrom (discusscontribs) 14:51, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The structure as envisioned sounds good. I'm happy to help whenever reality doesn't match the vision. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:12, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again for looking at the pages and adding the sidebar as well. I see where you tightened some of my links (I had been pasting the whole URL when I couldn't remember the exact page name). Much appreciated! Eyoungstrom (discusscontribs) 23:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Why create a Wikiversity account?[edit]

Hi Professor Braunschweig,

Until recently there was an invitation on the Main Page to create a Wikiversity account. Now I see that the invitation has been removed. Has there been a change in policy concerning new accounts?

ThaniosAkro (discusscontribs) 17:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The invitation is still there, but only displayed for anonymous users. See MediaWiki:Anonnotice and mw:Manual:Interface/Sitenotice. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:06, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

my contribs[edit]

i tried to create a quiz not vandalize (discuss) 18:56, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Please create subpages for these quizzes. The resources you are editing are being used in real-world classes at my college, and IC3 is active now. The review question section is designed specifically to encourage formative assessment. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
but one of them is protected now so i cant add the link (discuss) 19:03, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
15px Done This would be easier if you created a user account and/or logged in. Experienced wiki editors who edit anonymously give the impression that they are using the IP address to bypass a block somewhere. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:13, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Slide show[edit]

Dear Dave, I have added a slide show to the Hilbert Book Model Project. The slide show can be started via a button on the top page of the project. The slide show applies a kind of template that is based on a table and this frame includes the navigation buttons. The first slide acts a kind of contents navigator. I have searched for a similar construct in Wikiversity, but I could not find it. The slide show is still in construction but I feel a need to be able to export the slides to a format that can ce imported into Adobe elements, such that I can generate a Youtube video with audio comments of the slide show. I think that SVG (scalable vector graphics) is a suitable export format for this purpose. My question is whether an SVG export tool exists. Hilbert Book Model Project/Slide show Greetings, Hans HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 20:20, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I am not aware of any tool to export SVG. From that perspective, a better option would be to develop the slides in SVG and upload those images either here or to Commons:. Then embed the SVG images in pages to generate a slide show, if that's necessary. Other options are to generate slide shows as PDFs, as User:Young1lim does, or use the {{Slideshow}} template or create something similar.
Regarding the slide show pages themselves, note that they currently violate a number of web design best practices. These include not using tables for layout (use DIV instead), not assuming screen size (allow for mobile users), not forcing absolute font sizes (use percentages), and providing adequate contrast for visually impaired readers.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:50, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Dave The slides on my nokia phone look as good/bad as the normal wikiversity pages look at that phone. The template that I use for my slides come close to the {{Slideshow}} template.HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 21:37, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Request Edit for Page on Comparison between Han and Romans[edit]

Hello, I'm submitting an edit request for a page you put under protection: Comparison between Roman and Han Empires

<Unnecessary detail removed. See Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires>

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Intranetusa (talkcontribs) at 22 July 2017‎

Template:At Protection is (temporarily) removed. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:49, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Dave. I've completed my edits - you can inspect it and restore the page protection if you wish.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Intranetusa (talkcontribs) at 22 July 2017‎

Getting Started[edit]

I saw the edit you left on my user talk page. I would like to ask a few questions on I could get started on learning and contributing. Thanks --Tega Sugaray (discusscontribs) 16:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Welcome! What questions do you have? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:07, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I tried to take some courses on the school of mathematics and I found some of the empty pages and I am currently trying to add some content to the school of mathematics and I am not quite sure how I can get others to help contribute to the non existing empty pages. I would also be grateful if you could help with some tips on writing mathematical symbols.--Tega Sugaray (discusscontribs) 17:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:At If you find empty pages, decide whether they should be improved or removed. If you see something that could be removed, tag it with {{subst:prod}}. That gives it 90 days to be improved or removed. I haven't done any work with mathematics symbols. You might check in the Wikiversity:Colloquium for assistance there. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I just finished a write up on rational numbers and I would like someone to review it--Tega Sugaray (discusscontribs) 18:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:At That's a great start! I cleaned it up a little, added references and some additional resources. Something to keep in mind is that Wikiversity is not Wikipedia. Since we focus on learning by doing, we want to try to have some type of activity in each lesson to reinforce the concepts. For detail on why this approach is effective, see Contextual Learning. Keep up the good work! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Main Page comment below POTD computer[edit]

The following comment appears on our Main Page: "Hello there. PC pictures are really fine but... remember about new technologies. There are not only Hard Drives Devices or CD ROMs... There are SSD and CD/DVD/Br (Blue-rays) too. Not every PC today have got HDD onboard. Some have already SSD only. Times has changed. Picture is not actual and may force someone to an mistake when not know (kids) what PC is. Add this info, please. Thank you for your work is really important. Thank you for your knowledge and many more. Thank you for your time. Best luck. Fix your pictures. No matter what, these are great. Thank you." Suggestions on how to remove it are most welcome! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 02:15, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

See [4]. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:53, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


Are there specific rules for writing educative materials for primary and junior learners Thanks. --Tega Sugaray (discusscontribs) 14:07, 30 July 2017 (UTC)learners

Template:At I'm sure there are, but my area of expertise is in adult learning. Most of the primary and secondary content I've seen at Wikiversity is directed at teachers (lesson plans, etc.) rather than learners. See Category:Primary education and Category:Secondary Education for examples.
Something else to consider would be a Wikipedia:Simple:Wikipedia:How to write Simple English pages approach.
In terms of design, the approach I would recommend following based on my experience in learning design is described at Contextual Learning. Provide accessible information and then provide a way for users to engage / interact with that information in a way that is meaningful to them. In Wikiversity terms, learning by doing. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info--Tega Sugaray (discusscontribs) 14:59, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Much thanks for welcoming new users[edit]

Really appreciate all the prompt talk page welcomes for new students in motivation and emotion, Dave - and everything else you're doing WV-wise. Hope you're well. Sincerely, James. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 00:34, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Atlantis Location Hypothesis[edit]

Dave, I understand the implications of what I am posting regarding the Azores islands and also the other islands in that area. Keep in mind that this volcano cone collapse tsunami has been the subject of one episode of CSI Miami and it is, therefore, present in pop culture.

Field geologists are desperately needed to do research that may be applied to risk. That area of the world is beautiful but I do not think that it is all subject to a catastrophe shortly. Perhaps some degree of risk exists in specific places. That is what needs to be assessed. Currently, I do not feel that there is enough field research to accurately assess risk. That is what I would take away from this research in the Atlantis Location Hypothesis.

Also, I would like a place to move the older part of the Atlantis Location hypothesis away and removed from the newer part. We can link them but I'd like them to be at different Internet addresses. I think it is time to do this.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 21:44, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Please use subpages to split up your content. If you want to remove the content entirely, you can always use diff links to link to older versions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)


Trying to work this out - the last couple of edits to this template might have changed the way this template is working - it doesn't seem to close the box any more? Template:RoundBoxLeft Content in box Template:RoundBoxBottom Content should be outside box |} -- Jtneill - Talk - c 13:51, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I only fixed RoundBoxTop. I wasn't aware that there was a Left. I'll see if I can get to it later today. If necessary, roll back the changes on RoundBoxTop and RoundBoxBottom in the mean time. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)


Dear Dave, why is it not ok to thank you for your support on Wikiversity pages. You removed my acknowledgement about your contributions? Is that inappropriate to give credit at the root node of a learning resource? Just want to thank you just like on a publication. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 17:24, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I'm sure you mean it as a complement, but I'm just not interested in being listed that way. Any content contributions I make will appear in the page history, just like everyone else. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:45, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

IP round up[edit]

Hi Dave!

I just had to roll back over 20 edits to Radiation which were made by one of the formula synopses IPs These IPs are persistent! I suppose there are three options

  1. Roll back edits and ask at each for them to discuss their edits first,
  2. Warn them that they will be blocked,
  3. Then start blocking them; or
  4. Collectively move their synopses to subpages of the main subject such as Physics, Chemistry, Capacitors, etc. and block if they continue; or
  5. Try to contact their teacher by tracking down their geographic location, not going to be easy, or delete and block them all for say a week.

Any overall suggestions? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 00:09, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:At There is only one editor. The editor is in Toronto, or using a service that accesses the Internet in Toronto. What I propose is an abuse filter that prevents any main page edits from these IP addresses. Only subpage edits will be allowed. We can go further, and restrict these IPs to a specific learning project or projects. Fundamental Physics and Fundamental Mathematics would be my recommendation. The user can do whatever they want with those two, and must leave everything else alone to be rolled back to previous content. Which of these options seems best, or is there something else that would work? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:20, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
  • At first the abuse filter seems great, especially if it restricts each IP from this user to Fundamentals of Chemistry, Fundamental Mathematics, or Fundamental Physics. I can move those others to subpages of one of these three and revert those the IP did not create back to their original resources, unless you want to use your bot. Or, we restrict the user right to these three only as programming another filter might create unexpected headaches. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:36, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Jan Powell II[edit]

Hi Dave!

This IP just added a question to Dates/Quiz and Planets/Quiz that are okay for these quizzes! Is this Jan Powell II again? If so and the user can be careful with questions added or ask on the Discuss page first to be sure, it may be okay to unblock. What do you think? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:01, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Yes. The IP is from the same location as all of those previous edits. I am opposed to unblock in this case. See the edit history on the user's talk page. There is complete disregard for discussion, and indefinite blocks on three other wikis for disruptive editing. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:02, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Ugh! Not cool! Well, leave the user as is or block the IP if you want. Another option is to let the user through this IP compose questions and I'll leave or roll back as needed. Most of these quizzes are on my watch list. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:44, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Block edit[edit]

When editing the German translation of a page I encounter a strange blocking of the editing that reproduces after adding a few sentences to a paragraph. A message box tells that the save action is automatically blocked. The administrator must be informed with "Edit blocked". Changing the text does not change the blocking. Only removing the addition enables the saving of the text. It occurs in Hilbert Book Model Project/Hilbert Book Model/de#Versionsausrichtung and I wanted to change the paragraph text into a text that I stored at When I include this text in this message, then I get the same block message when I save the message. So something in the text plays havoc. How can I cure this strange behavior?HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 09:54, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The original edit block appears to be related to recent vandalism. I've adjusted the filter. Try again. The later blocks appear to be related to continuing to edit the same session. They're not caused by the filter itself, but something in the browser session. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:33, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Dave, the block is resolvedHansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 12:42, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Open Badges Management and Wikiversity[edit]

Dave, you created courses that (i guess) taught to students in face2face or blended learning environment at Harper College. Would it be possible to issue Open Badges for those courses, and let international students enrole to that course. We could accept that course at a german universities as additional computer sciences qualitfications that are helpful e.g. in environmental science Master Courses. If your want we can perform the assessment at our University and do support locally in Germany. I ask you because one big benefit of your expertise is the master in online studies beside your qualification in Computer Science. So this prototype will link online courses available in Wikiversity to external certification with an international Open Badge Management. We can design that in a way there will be no additional student support at your end but we would issues the certificates according to your course standards at Harper.

If I get an OK from you, I would contact my university for the establishment of this international prototype between academic institutions (etc, MoU,...), that refer to

  • Wikiversity as online learning resource for courses and
  • Open Badge Management for Certification and digital validation of obtained badges.

According to academic and educational structures and with reference to the remarks on "what is Wikiversity NOT" Wikiversity cannot and will never provide academic certificates. For this pilot we could use e.g. BadgR so we need not to setup and maintain additional infrastructure at the universities. Results of the prototype can be used as learning resource in Wikiversity, so that other academic institutions can learn, improve and build on that prototype and could join a Open Badge Alliance. What do you think? Shall we try that and document this approach step by step transparently on Wikiversity itself?

--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 09:49, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Is this proposal specific to my courses only, or is this open to other Wikiversity courses? If it is open to others, it should be a discussion for the community (Colloquium) rather than here.
Would recommend a two-step approach
  • step 1: start with a prototype for your courses between us,
  • step 2: provide the lessons-learned on the adminitrative, educational, ... side as a structured list of topics for the community (Colloquium) and let the community decide how to proceed! (e.g. Wikiversity course as teachers training in which teachers learn to combine Wikiversity course with academic assessment and digital certifications) --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Enrollment in a course at my college has a variety of weekly assessments beyond the Wikiversity content (participation, assignments, quizzes) that confirm student learning.
Weekly assessments, assignments, online student support and other blended learning scenarios had to be covered by my University, because it is not fair to export workload from one insitution to an other. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Almost all of my courses target certification. It is our goal that students become certified in order to document their expertise. It is the certification that my college accepts as proof of proficiency, sometimes along with an interview and/or hands-on skills exam, for students who don't enroll in a course.
this is similar to our university, we will keep the traditional certification process and add Open Badges to it. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Other institutions, yours included, are welcome to use Wikiversity resources however they wish. If they believe the quality is there and can effectively assess students based on the institution's credentialing requirements, they can certainly use Wikiversity courses for learning.
Yes, you are right, but the learning resource in Wikiversity is only one part of the educational and institutional process. Certification is another.
The result of the proposal could lead to teachers training learning resources in Wikiversity, how to combine Wikiversity content and certification at the institution. As mentioned above sometime courses must be tailored to local requirements and constraints other resources can be used in both educational systems. This affects in turn the design of learning moduls, general elements specialties of the country and institution in which Wikiversity course material is used. This leads to the fact the Wikiversity content and certification at different institution is not an independent. The way in which you decompose learning resources is a good way to re-use and remix learning resources. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Documenting the process for others here at Wikiversity would be good. Whether an institution would be able to take advantage of the process will depend on their local credentialing. In the US, higher education is accredited by the Higher Learning Commission. So far, we're seeing support for OER, but not yet badge credentials. Badge credentials are considered a non-standard pathway. Each student would need to have their credentials evaluated individually by a given degree-granting institution, and then the student would need to meet residency requirements at that institution (typically either 30 or 60 credit hours) to earn a degree.
I think, Open Badges will NOT replace certificates accredited by the Higher Learning Commission. The meta data in Open Badges could add value to standard issue of certificates. (Semi-)Automated processing of applications to jobs (selection support) is in an globalized international market an additional value. Open Standards that can be applied especially in developing countries. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:52, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Community colleges, such as mine, may be a bit more lenient. Students at our institution need 18 hours (six courses) from Harper. The other 42 hours can be transfer and proficiency credit. This is for an associate's degree (60 hours) rather than a bachelor's degree (typically 120 semester hours).
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:50, 13 September 2017 (UTC)


Ultimately, I don't understand what you are asking for. All of the content is already shared as CC-BY-SA. You and your institution are free to do whatever you want with the courses, as long as you include attribution and share any derivative works the same way. There's nothing I can either approve or reject. You already have all the permission you need.

I would like to see the content reused as much as possible. The approach has proven effective at my institution across a range of instructors and courses. Please proceed with your ideas based on the permission you already have through CC-BY-SA. Thanks!

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:39, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

My question is: Can we establish an OpenBadge for your course (e.g. of project management), show how it is reused at an other institution, what collaboration and negotiations are needed to serve the needs of both institutions without duplication of courses with minor changes all over again. Decomposition in submodules is definitely a key reduce that.
But bringing OER and Wikiversity into an institutional educational settings and transfer it from one application scenario to another, is much more than having content an be happy, that I have the license to do so. I might be wrong and it is really that simple. I use the course, duplicate submodules or exchange parts without touching your course. I though this reduces the collaboration and interaction of the community. So I guess, I have to rethink the concept of collaborative development of resources, that allow tailored subpart for the institutions and generic shared element is not an issue for Wikiversity Community it again leads to the concept of forking and merging.
From your comments before I derive that these ideas are not on the wishlist of the community. In an prototype between us, I thought I could identify, what is really needed and intergrated that in author support without having forking and merging available in the Version Control in Wikiversity.
It seems to me now, that I am slightly on the wrong track somehow. Thank you for your response, it was helpful for me. I think I have to work on that a bit more, to understand what is really helpful before I share the ideas in a Colloquium.
--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 21:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you can establish an OpenBadge for any given course and reuse the content. I don't know what collaboration and negotiations are needed, because there haven't been any changes proposed, just badging. Decomposition is nothing more than transcluding pages with {{:title/subpage}} syntax, so you can easily reuse lessons. The content for my courses targets industry certification, so enhancements that target the certification would be welcome, and other changes less so.
You describe collaborative development, but these courses are already developed. So what I hear you describing is collaborative redevelopment. That's not badging existing courses. That's rewriting them. I'm not opposed, but you'll need to dig through and tell me what you want to change and why, and then negotiate who is doing the redevelopment work.
A discussion with me is not a discussion with the community. At this point, neither of us has any idea what the community wants. I just know that I put in about 150 hours per course on development, I'm happy to share what I have, and not particularly excited to redevelop it based on non-accredited badging alone. I encourage students to pursue certification as their badge.
It is entirely possible that you can identify what is really needed and integrate that, but that wasn't your proposal. Your proposal was badging. Please do reconsider what you want to accomplish and then let me know if I can assist. Thanks!
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:49, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
I can only half-follow this lengthy conversation, but Dave is right about Wikiversity never issuing badges or academic credit. This is because we follow the wikimedia practice of encouraging anonymity through usernames. Think of Wikiversity as a repository of teaching materials. Dave is also correct about the need to bring in the community if major changes to an ongoing project is envisioned. If you want to modify and reuse a project, that can be easily arranged in a number of ways, and Dave would be a better mentor on whether you develop something in your userspace or create a parallel project to an existing one. I also teach at the college level and am using Miraheze, where students can create parallel private wikis that only I and the individual student can see. I like to do this in a large class whenever they are "competing" to accomplish the same task. To create private wikis, see If you have any questions, leave a message on my talk page.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:33, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


Thank you both, Dave and Guy, for your explanation.

  • Collaborative development is already in place by the Wiki approach in general (++)
  • put additional workload on wiki authors in the Wikiversity context for an collaborative work for which Wikiversity was not designed for, does not make any sense, (++)
  • A learning resource for
    • learners,
    • teachers and
    • administrators of educuational institutions
about the application of Open Badges for Wikiversity resources will provide a solution for discussion mentioned above.
Started that at Open Badges
Excuse me for being slow in application of the existing infrastructure properly to that.

--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 08:21, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Increasing the amount of users from a particular IP address[edit]

Hi David, I am trying to introduce students to Wikiversity and have them create user accounts. We are getting the following error message: "Visitors to this wiki using your IP address have created 6 accounts in the last day, which is the maximum allowed in this time period. As a result, visitors using this IP address cannot create any more accounts at the moment. If you are at an event where contributing to Wikimedia projects is the focus, please see Requesting temporary lift of IP cap to help resolve this issue."

I tried researching how to request a temporary lift of the IP cap but I am at a loss. Can you help?

--Ireicher2 (discusscontribs) 20:42, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At See mw:Help:Mass account creation. Unfortunately, we don't have the noratelimit right isolated in a way that I can grant it to you without community approval, which will take longer than you need. However, I can create the accounts for you. Please use Special:EmailUser/Dave_Braunschweig to email me your request. Include the desired username and associated email address for each account. The system will assign random passwords and send each to the given email address so your students can access their accounts. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:34, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:At can be used if you want students writing on a wiki on the first day of class, or if you only want students to write wikitext for only a brief period of time. It is a node to 100 wiki-accounts open to both the instructor and a single autoconfirmed student account. I keep a list of user names (beginning wsul followed by a 3 digit number) and different passwords for each wiki. You have to be careful about making the passwords too public since students are automatically autoconfirmed on the meta wiki (that they need to stay of of). Unfortunately the wikis don't have visual editor, although that can be added if anybody is willing to take the trouble. The first 100 accounts (wsul001-wsul100) were created by me, but next semester, I can make another set for Ireicher2. Or, if Ireicher2 only needs a dozen or so student wikis, I can email the passwords to Ireicher2. One nice thing about the student wikis is that they have their own separate hosting system for images, oog, pdf, and other files.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 12:53, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:At Thanks so much. A node with 100 open wiki accounts would be very helpful on the first day of the assignment. Since the students often have difficulties with integrating media, a separate hosting server would make the process much easier for them. Also, thanks for offering to create accounts for us. Much appreciated. -- Ireicher2 (discusscontribs) 04:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Atlantis Location Hypothesis[edit]

Dave, I would like to use the following


...and, research originally presented to...

2. 4th International Workshop on Collapse Calderas September 23-29, 2012, Vulsini Calderas, Italy MEETING

as a source, unfortunately, I can no longer find the second one on the Internet but I have a copy of it, how might I proceed?

Thank you

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 00:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The ifremer resource is copyrighted. You may refer to it as with any other copyrighted Fair Use work. The other resource is assumed to be copyrighted unless you have explicit documentation to the contrary. Proceed as you would with any closed resource you did not write. Provide proper attribution, and do not copy content to the extent that it would violate the copyright holder's rights. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:27, 19 September 2017 (UTC)


RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 00:33, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Ben Steigmann[edit]

The accounts are not impersonations they are Ben Steigmann, I have been looking into this guys trolling activities for several years. He is a proven liar and a known racist. Abd is friends with Steigmann off-site, But they are unaware about Steigmann's Internet tactics. This person is not a neutral party. As for Ben He will do anything to evade his ban. He is fooling people by claiming some of the accounts were 'impersonation'. They were all him. What proof do you have they were not him? He is a proven liar, check the SPI archive there is a screenshot of him admitting on facebook to owning the account Gggtt but he did that confess that to abd. Be cautious about what this guy tells you! He also has a personal vendetta against mikemikev so will blame his socks onto him. LadyDragoner (discusscontribs) 19:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At If you wish to be taken seriously, use a known Wikimedia account and offer verifiable proof of your concerns supported by a steward Checkuser request. If you wish to avoid being blocked at Wikiversity, focus your comments on edits rather than editors. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Can you tell abd to stop posting misinformation and libel about me? He first said I was banned wikipedia user Mikemikev, then he said I was anglopyramid and now he claims I was James Skeptic. He has no technical evidence I am or was any of those accounts because I wasn't. He says I have been banned on wikipedia, I have never edited it. I don't understand why his wild speculations and allegations are being presented as factual. He is wrong about all the things he says but is repeatedly saying I own those accounts. He says I own those accounts so it must be true? His own opinion is not evidence and I find it offensive that he is trying to link me to other banned users. He has also archived a live discussion about Steigmann and unbanned Steigmann without a consensus vote. This guy seems to think he runs the place. LadyDragoner (discusscontribs) 07:07, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Template:At This page will not be used to attack other users. You are both warned to stop any and all personal attacks at Wikiversity. If you need custodian action, use Wikiversity:Request custodian action so that any custodian may respond to your concerns. The most effective approach would be to provide links to document your concerns rather than narration that extends the problem. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:36, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Of course. If I have made a personal attack other than as part of necessarily explanation of evidence, please point to it, so that I can remedy it and avoid it in the future. --Abd (discusscontribs) 18:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Doxxing and harassment from abd[edit]

Abd is personally stalking mikemikev, anglo-pyramidologist, manul and other Wikipedia editors and writing false claims about them [5], he has no technical evidence linking any of those accounts to Ben Steigmann but presents his speculations as factual. He also links to a real life name that is alleged to be of a Wikipedia account, taken from internet troll Rome Viharo's website. Can you remove the doxing and stalking? I fail to see why this is being put onto Wikiversity. Abd is a 72 year old man who seems to spend his time online now stalking people. This sort of behaviour and the doxing is unhealthy and breaking multiple laws. Antifa activist (discusscontribs) 21:08, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Dave, I fear that we have a sock-puppetry issue on our hands. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 21:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:At What do you think is the cause, and what would you propose as a solution? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Dave the cause is all Abd. He has attacked Wikipedia users such as Mikemikev, Manul, Anglopyramidologist and Dan Skeptic and has even doxed some of those people. He repeatedly claims these users 'impersonated' Ben Steigmann but he has no technical evidence to support that allegation. If he stopped making the allegations there would be no drama here. Antifa activist (discusscontribs) 22:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't have sufficient knowledge of the situation to propose a solution. I'd have to investigate further... rather I'm busy with my studies so investigating this whole "drama" myself won't happen anytime soon... Hopefully this will be gone by that time! -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:40, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Unfortunately it won't. The user who got blocked for 24-hours (Michaeldsuarez) is an admin on Encylopedia Dramatica (the troll "lolz" wiki); he will probably write a dubious article on it. The guy has no life and feeds off stupid internet drama for "lolz".Englisc (discusscontribs) 22:49, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

{{#invoke: ping | ping }} - please cut it with the personal attacks. If you persist in repetitively attacking editors, you will be blocked. Please discuss the matter at hand rather than insulting other editors. -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm just pointing out a fact. All this "drama" was started by a troll admin from Encylopedia Dramatica; ED openly identifies as a trolling site, its slogan is "in lulz we trust".Englisc (discusscontribs) 23:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

More Doxing

Abd talkpage - please remove all Michael D. Suarez's comments and the other user. Again more doxing of real life names and debate over who owns the Mikemikev, Manul or anglopryamidologist accounts. Doxing should not be aloud. Can you put an end to this drama. Antifa activist (discusscontribs) 21:33, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At PII edits are now hidden. Whether the drama will also end remains to be seen. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
It appears Michael restored/copied all the doxing and libel that should be deleted. [6]. In his comment he also admitted to being the other IP.Englisc (discusscontribs) 21:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I made one edit without logging in since I knew what an obsessed stalker and harasser you are, but you ended up attacking and spreading misinformation about me again anyway. --Michaeldsuarez (discusscontribs) 22:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Michael, you should stop involving yourself with other peoples lives or matters that have absolutely nothing to do with you. The Ben Steigmann case has nothing to do with you. You should move on with your life, and by doxing users on here you risk being banned. Antifa activist (discusscontribs) 22:07, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes it was restored by user michaeldsuarez. I think the admin should remove the doxing and lock his talk-page. Just a suggestion. Btw I am not on this website to cause trouble, I came here because Abd wrote lies about one of my old Wikipedia accounts, I was emailed about this a few hours ago. I really could be doing without this drama. Abd is the main one causing all this. If he stops posting about Wikipedia users, I am sure there would be no drama here. Antifa activist (discusscontribs) 22:03, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Template:At - Stop. Just stop. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:14, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate Dave resolving things by deleting the bad stuff and locking Abd's page, as well as blocking Michaeldsuarez. When Michael was banned from RationalWiki he used Encylopedia Dramatica (where he is an admin) to harass Rationalwiki sysops; I expect the frustrated Michael since he was temp-blocked -will now use ED to attack me or others (antifa activist) here by posting lies about us, but that's out of this wiki's control. ED is being sued, so it might go offline soon anyway. Englisc (discusscontribs) 23:13, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

It appears you blocked the victim and served the attacker[edit]

I cannot be sure, because you revision-deleted about 13 edits on my Talk page, and I did not see all of them, but what happened was that ... [description of what happened apparently revision-deleted by Dave as improperly containing personal information, I did not expect that, but ... it's a continuation of the misunderstanding of what happened. --Abd (discusscontribs) 13:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)]

What I notice is a lack of warnings for MDS on his talk page, but you went straight to a block. At the same time, you have passed over massive disruption by the SPAs who attacked MDS with serious outing. You deleted the outing, though MDS had not requested it, but that was reasonable as a precaution. But these SPAs continue to attack. I've warned two and will probably warn another, to make custodian action if behavior continues policy-compliant.

To be sure, it was a short-block and will do little harm. MDS is a big boy with high experience.

However, can you explain the odd imbalance? Thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 00:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Template:At PII (or claimed PII) had been added to your talk page. The PII was removed and hidden. Your page was semi-protected to stop the attacks. Michaeldsuarez restored the conversation after it was hidden and the page had been protected. Intentional or unintentional, I don't know, and at this point don't really care. It needed to stop, and I was prepared to give timeouts to anyone who continued the attacks. But I was also careful to leave Michaeldsuarez the option to request an unblock on his talk page, and to leave open the option for him to continue to email you if desired.
Please do not continue to quote what you recall happened inside hidden edits. The point to hiding them was that there was something that was requested to be hidden. You are welcome to post an RCA and ask someone else to dig through everything, but the reason the hiding was so extensive is that the amount of 'outing' by connecting users to external sources was so pervasive, and edits on top of edits had to be removed to hide the true and/or false accusations.
I remind everyone reading this that we are all volunteers. Our available time is short, and refereeing drama is not what draws (most of?) us here. Stop the drama. It is not setting learning free.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:35, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I wrote some ordinary response, but I just reviewed the time-sequence of events. It appears you asked MDS to stop *after* you blocked him. I will go to RCA or to CR, unless you choose to communicate and negotiate with respect. We are all volunteers, not just you. You chose to intervene in this mess, being asked to do so by a pile of obvious obvious. If it's hard to figure out, I understand. It took me many days of research to figure out what had happened. Dave, when we are stressed, we make poor decisions, but we are still responsible for them.
The request here is simple. Please unblock Michaeldsuarez, because blocking was not evenly applied and it's not clear he did anything truly improper, and apparently he wasn't warned if he did. but others did clearly violate policies, whom you saw and did not block. You could choose, instead, to block them, at least it would be even, and I warned two of them already -- ignored warnings. --Abd (discusscontribs) 02:45, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Abd stalking Wikipedia editors[edit]

Can you or another admin delete Abd's 'SPA disruption' page and his comments here [7]. This is not a practical or honest 'project' to be making on Wikiversity. This user has an axe to grind against skeptics, he is personally stalking known skeptics such as James Skeptic, Dan Skeptic, Mikemikev, Manul, AngloPyramidologist etc and associating such accounts with the Ben Steigmann drama (problem he has no technical evidence to link any of these accounts to Ben). I will disclose to you I was one of the names he mentioned but in no way shape or form have I been involved in Wikipedia recently and certainly not in relation to Ben. I would appreciate if this 'project' of his was removed. It is nothing more than slander of various Wikipedia users he does not like. I understand some of his comments were removed but there are still usernames listed on his project page [8]. God has never existed (discusscontribs) 13:18, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

I would like to add that Abd is a well known troll who has been banned on several blogs and forums. Here is what someone else wrote about his trolling: "Abd seem to continue using the same old strategy as before in his mission, which is waterboarding the forums with loooong useless rants that contradicts themselves and with sole aim to insert confusion." [9]. He appears to be an old man who has lost his marbles for example his last posts talk about God being 'reality'. He has also been attacking other users here telling them 'to get a life', even though he is 73 years old and has nothing to do but stalk skeptics on the internet. Debunking cold fusion quacks (discusscontribs) 16:27, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dave!

I've put in a request at Steward/Checkuser on these SPAs. Abd is adding the new ones. My suggestion is that we start blocking each for one month to give the Steward/Checkuser time to sort these out, but I won't begin blocking unless you agree. We have two requests already for custodian assistance. It's easy to separate them from registered users here to contribute. What would you like to do? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 18:47, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Actually there is an easier way. I will stop making the SPAs if Abd agrees to stop writing hit pieces about Wikipedia users. This is Wikiversity, not a place to great pages accusing other editors of things without technical evidence. If all his allegations and misinformation about Wikipedia users stays removed from this website then I wouldn't need to be creating any SPA/s. Btw not all of them are me. Do we have a deal? Please ask Abd. If Abd stops the stalking of Wikipedia editors and ceases posting the offensive allegations then I would not even be here. Unlike him I have better things to be doing. Regards 532 recent contributors (discusscontribs) 19:15, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Excessive Vandalism[edit]

User:Liberty and Basher disrupts User pages excessive vandalism

--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 18:05, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

User:Abd dirty old bloke in his 70s same alterations with different account - excessive vandalism

--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 18:12, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:At See ongoing discussions at Wikiversity: Request custodian action. There are two perspectives:
  1. A user is causing extensive disruption at Wikiversity to eliminate content he or she does not agree with.
  2. A user is responding to unethical activity by causing extensive disruption.
The community needs to decide how it wants to respond to both of these perspectives. Please engage in the discussion. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Reverted vandalism on your Userpage, Dave - requested Custodian Action as recommended, DONE --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 19:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Template:At Thanks! Be sure to also see [10] for the attacker's perspective on why the excessive vandalism is warranted. There is cause and effect. The effect is wrong. The attacker's perspective is that the cause is also wrong. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:08, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Hope there will be a constructive approach - everyone make errors sometimes, we can learn from them and evolve. Swarm intelligence can help to evolve in the context of divers opinions on certain topic and diversity is necessary to accomplish a neutral point of view. But fighting beyond arguments slows down evolution of knowledge. Thank you for linking to the attacker's perspective, I just noticed the disruption of pages without any clue about the "WHY?".

--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 20:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

I was attempting to create Neocameralism/Definitions[edit]

Yarvin award (discusscontribs) 00:51, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Due to recent and ongoing abuse, new users are unable to create pages with external links. For now, you can either add to the Neocameralism page or create a page without external links. After you've established a productive edit history, you'll automatically receive additional rights. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Reformation - Who, What, When, Where, Why?[edit]

May you restore this essay? It has already been graded so I won't be accused of plagiarism. Thanks! ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Done. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:07, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Content Translation[edit]

Is it possible to allow the "Content Translation" beta feature from Wikipedia in Wikiversity too? Or would this beta-feature cause any problems in the Wikiversity environment of content management? --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 14:57, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I think you're referring to mw:Content translation. You'll need to check with them to see what is necessary to enable the tool and what the implications are. Then you need approval from the community to request that it be added here. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:19, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes referred to mw:Content translation. Asked for providing the beta feature in Wikiversity, DONE, Thank you Dave,
--Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 11:58, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


I believe that Wikiversity sites are being attacked. Footnote #8 was changed. The user has made a threat to me about the Atlantis Location Hypothesis after taking this action at: I found footnote #8 was modified without permission. So, here we go, please advise.== RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 22:42, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

this is the site that he used to replace the existing reference RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 22:48, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At See Special:Contributions/Abd. The user has not made any edits to the Atlantis project and has not made any threats to you. He has pointed out that your edits on Wikipedia are ill-advised, and your posts that disregard accepted approaches and standards prevent your intent from being well-accepted. The only ones who have edited Atlantis/Location Hypotheses recently are you and MarshallSumter, and Marshall hasn't edited references. If anyone incorrectly edited the Location Hypotheses page, it would have to have been you. I recommend correcting the error and moving on. If you would prefer that Abd not leave you any more messages, reply on your talk page and say so. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:46, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Dave. When I come across what I came across, and attempt to support a user, I do see this kind of response, rarely. Yes, you were correct, the user did add that reference himself, with this edit. 'Nuff said. --Abd (discusscontribs) 16:19, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
Ah, one more point. The user asked you a question in August.
Dave, I do wish to pursue the Curator of the Atlantis Location Hypothesis. I understand that I was declared the Curator. Please advise. Thanks. RAYLEIGH22 (discuss • contribs) 23:04, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Though he has been editing Wikiversity since 2013, it has only been with a very specific focus on Atlantis, and he does not understand wiki process, so he will need help. For background, he is referring to this edit by CQ in 2016. CQ did not follow up. I'm not going to tell him because of his reaction above. --Abd (discusscontribs) 16:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At See Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/RAYLEIGH22. You did not respond to questions asked and did not obtain a mentor willing to sponsor your nomination. The nomination was closed. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:01, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Dave I found them today and responded to them. I have requested marshallsumter to sponsor me as curator today. He has done much work on this effort.

Can you help now?

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 21:25, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

I have an appointment that I must go to now. I will be back on line in an hour or two.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 23:17, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I have several concerns regarding this request:
  1. We don't designate project custodians. See Wikiversity:Learning projects#A note about project-"ownership".
  2. Your recent edits on talk pages have demonstrated a lack of understanding of wiki culture and formatting. For example, new talk threads are placed at the bottom of talk pages rather than at the top. Responses are indented so that threads are easy to follow.
  3. The response that started this thread demonstrated a lack of understanding of Mediawiki tools such as page history and user contribution lists.
Without a demonstrated understanding of Wikiversity culture and Wikimedia tools, it is not possible for me to support a request for either curatorship or custodianship.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:24, 25 October 2017 (UTC)


Will there be projects/assignment/assessments/ educational pictures/ portal featured educational picture everyday? Do we take breaks on Saturdays and Sundays? Joybeautynezzfan88 (discusscontribs) 03:07, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Most courses at Wikiversity are independent study. You may complete them at whatever pace you are comfortable with. A few are real-world courses, courses at colleges and universities that use Wikiversity for either instructor notes or student collaboration. Most of those courses follow a one or two week schedule. Please note that Russian Revolution was written in 2006. The primary author hasn't been active since 2010. That doesn't change the validity of the content one way or the other. It just means that there isn't anyone around to answer questions about the content. Enjoy, and feel free to improve on what you find. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)



I really do not need to have a custodianship or to be a curator. All that I want to do is to continue to work on the Atlantis Location Hypothesis on Wikiversity. It is an idea of mine to which I have committed a lot of thought. I just want to work on it. I like to learn and I have learned a lot from others as I have progressed with original research there. I have come to realize that Wikipedia is not ready to accept these ideas. When I submitted the Wikiversity site to Researchgate, and the institution where I obtained my PhD, a lot of those professors who knew me started following the Wikiversity site. These ideas of mine have stimulated research in academia, and it is all due to the Atlantis Location Hypothesis on Wikiversity. This encourages me.

I see that abd has a long record of being blocked on various issues on the wiki. I have refrained from posting and even looking at Wikipedia where all of this started. I do not wish to be in the position that abd is in. I do not wish to visit and contribute to Wikipedia. I have seen during my last visit that lots of changes have been made to the Atlantis Location Hypothesis on Wikiversity. I have not participated in those edits. I do not know anybody who did any edits on the Atlantis Location Hypothesis since I quit trying to post there. I do not want to edit that and I do not need to participate in edits there. A simple Google search of key words "Atlantis Location Hypothesis" pulls up both sites, the one on Wikipedia and the one on Wikiversity. I can co exist with Wikipedia. I only wish that they will coexist with Wikiverity regarding this subject. Whatever has happened on Wikipedia from edits I have had nothing to do with. I have only been on Wikiversity as of late except for the times I have went there to use Wikipedia as a resource. I cannot control who views the work on wikiversity and then feels the need to make a contributory edit on Wikipedia. since my well-documented edits there have been rescinded, I have not edited nor have I directly attempted anybody to do such a thing.

Abd, if you are reading this please, a truce. If there are problems on Wikipedia I am not responsible. Maybe my original research on Wikiversity has inspired other people to do the things that they do. If this is the case, it will be on them and not on me.

However, I have had these ideas for years but I have not expressed them. I was as astounded as anybody when I found the simultaneity of the the end of the last ice age and Plato's date for the demise of Atlantis. In fact, I was flabbergasted. From that point, it did not take long to connect sea level rise of today, sea level rise in the past and then link recent scientific research with the demise of Atlantis due to sea level rise. What I am having trouble with is the supervolcano hypothesis, and linking it to the underwater eruption of volcanoes. I was astounded when I found that 80% of volcano eruptions are from the volcanoes on the ocean floor.

In closing, I wish to express the universal truth that you cannot kill an idea. You cannot even suppress it permanently. I will retire soon and I will have a lot of time to think, play music and work on my old cars. I will also have more time for Wikiversity and the Atlantis Location Hypothesis. If I cannot pursue and express these ideas I will find another media outlet for them. It is part of me and has been since my undergraduate days in college.

I hope that everyone reading this understands. I cannot stop this research now, even if I wanted to, nor do I wish it to do any harm whatsoever.

Thanks for reading this. Please try to understand my motivation is not malicious. It is merely scientific curiosity. If I cannot do it here I will find someplace else. I am grateful that this place has been made available to me.

Thank You all, everyone!

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 00:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

By the way, abd, if you are reading this will you accept my apology for the unfounded accusation?

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 00:12, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Thank you for sharing your perspective and your heart-felt message. Please note that I don't leave my talk page open to discussions between third parties, so I will be archiving this shortly. I encourage you to copy a good part of this message and add it to the Talk page for Atlantis Location Hypothesis for others to read later. Rest assured that User:Abd will see the message. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


I have no problem proceeding as we have been doing. I will take concerns about anything straight to Dave.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 12:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


Can we go to

and use this map

of the Aegean Sea at the end of this section in the Atlantis Location Hypothesis?

The purpose of this is provide an explanation of how the population of Attica and their civilization disappeared at the same time Atlantis disappeared. I have no objection if you need to forward this request to marshallsumpter.

Thank you

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 01:05, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I encourage you to learn more about copyright laws and fair use. We must always assume content is copyrighted and not openly licensed, unless the resource explicitly states otherwise. Content may be used at Wikiversity under Fair Use guidelines, but there are four requirements that must be met in order for that usage to be valid. In this case, see . The author of the site sells his work. The only acceptable use will be as outlined on his contact page. One way to avoid these types of questions is as suggested on that site: link to the resource rather than copying it. Build on the knowledge of others rather than borrowing from the knowledge of others. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:35, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Dave, thank you.

I have already submitted the footnote.

There difference between Santorini and the Azores.

The Santorini volcano is the result of a Subduction zone. The African plate is diving under the Euro Asian plate.

The Azores Plateau is a seamount supplied by a mantle plume. Arguments are made to the contrary. The arguments supporting a mantle plume are more substantial.

The seamount is not stable. It is on a triple junction of 3 tectonic plates, it is unstable and it's breakup is established by 5 magnetic anomalies plus the mantle plume. Some conflicting accounts label the faults differently as to type.

Multiple volcanoes dot the area. There are constant earthquakes and earthquake swarms occurrences.

The Azores Plateau is characterized by two faultlines the N120E and the N150E, both of which contrary stresses.

These are the geologic facts that exist in the Azores archipelago. The forces are slowly tearing it apart.

In addition, the volcanic islands of the archipelago are subject to constant earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and landslides of immense proportions.

There is no place on Earth that is as geologically active on an ocean floor and there is no other place on earth that could have changes the course of the Atlantic gulf stream. It was change enough to cause a climate change resulting in glacier melt.

Regardless of if there was a large eruption or if the ocean floor simply subsided this is where my hypothesis claims the last ice age ended. This is supported by both science and Plato.

Sorry I rambled.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 23:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC)


Is there a Icelandic Wikipedia? Joybeautynezzfan88 (discusscontribs) 23:37, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Is there a Canadian Wikipedia? Joybeautynezzfan88 (discusscontribs) 23:38, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Is there any European Wikipedias? Joybeautynezzfan88 (discusscontribs) 23:39, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Wikipedias are organized by language rather than geographic location. See meta:List of Wikipedias for Wikipedias listed by various groupings. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:40, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

My first error[edit]

Embarrassingly, I accidentally deleted Category:WikiJournal when intending to delete a redirect to it. Would you mind restoring it? Lesson learnt! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 11:15, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Done. No worries. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:26, 1 November 2017 (UTC)


Is there a Netherlands Wikiversity? Joybeautynezzfan88 (discusscontribs) 17:19, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At There isn't yet a separate Netherlands Wikiversity project, but there is a Netherlands page at betawikiversity:Hoofdpagina. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:43, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Attracting Students[edit]

Thanks for all the work you do to improve Wikiversity!

I am interested in attracting more students to the overall platform, and especially to the courses I developed.

I am puzzled by the pageview numbers generated by some of the top courses in the most viewed pages list. For example the top ranked page is currently 10 principles of economics with 21,951 page views. It is a good page (learning resource), but not clearly outstanding. Do you have any insight into how this page attracts the large number of page views that it does? I have similar questions about the top 15 or so pages. What can I learn from this? If I was to begin to create a learning resource on “attracting students” what might it include?

Thanks for your consideration of this. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 10:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At The short answer is Google. Top ranked pages are popular because Google shows them to people who search for that topic, and people click on the link hoping it explains what they are looking for. I suspect many of these top pages are incomplete or insufficient, but users keep hoping.
To see a couple of examples that did end up drawing appropriate Google support, take a look at IT Fundamentals and Internet Fundamentals. These courses ended up drawing very high Google search placement. I didn't do anything special with them other than list them on the front page as news when they were complete. Google found the content and people started clicking on the links Google provided.
From my perspective, the secret to attracting students is to select a subject they are interested in, and then create content that is easily assessable and engaging. As we improve overall Wikiversity quality, users will be more likely to click on a Wikiversity link, and our search results will continue to improve.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:14, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Copyright accommodations for certain screen shots[edit]


In a recent private email exchange with user MichaelacaulfieldI learned that he became discouraged as a Wikiversity contributor after the images he uploaded for the course he was developing on Web Literacy were deleted. After being discouraged by this Wikiversity incident he went on to publish his work at: Please note that the (majority of) deleted images were of google search results pages. I am not clear on the intellectual property rights status of such pages, but the way I think about it a primary creative contributor is the originator of the query. Can we explore some accommodation that will allow search engine query results page images to be used in Wikiversity courses? Has such use ever been legally challenged? This seems like an important bridge to cross to assist editors in developing courses related directly to using search engines. Thanks for you consideration of this issue. Thanks! --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 19:40, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Michaelacaulfield was only active for about 30 hours. There is no record of any of his Wikiversity content having been deleted by anyone except him. What I suspect happened is that he uploaded his images to Commons, he did not own the rights to those images, and they were appropriately deleted. If he had contacted us, we might have been able to help him understand the process and find appropriate images, but we never heard from him. In the end, based on what he created, either Wikibooks or BC Open Campus were more appropriate anyway.
Wikimedia is not flexible regarding copyright restrictions, nor should they be. Wikiversity has an exemption policy that is much more flexible regarding Fair Use of copyrighted content, but we do need to be careful not to violate Fair Use guidelines. To address the general question regarding screen shots of search engine results, yes, I think those would be covered by the EDP, as long as no free equivalent exists.
If you'd like to work on something that would help new users (and users new to uploading files) better understand image licensing requirements, and where and how to upload what, so they don't go away discouraged, please do so.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Positions of Skywalkistan[edit]

I understand why you deleted the page. However, can I have the source, so I can move it to a user page. (I actually am using this timeline for this). Thank you

TyEvSkyo (discusscontribs) 22:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Restored to User:TyEvSkyo/Positions of Skywalkistan. Thanks for asking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Template:At Thank you TyEvSkyo (discusscontribs) 00:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Ben Steigmann cross-wiki sock-puppets[edit]

See the recent SPI against Ben Steigmann. He has been banned on several accounts for spamming Wikiversity content onto Wikipedia. Please see theSPI investigation here, also please read my post I made [11]. All the evidence is in Ben's recent Wikiversity edits. Please take action and ban this guy. He has caused disruption on Wikipedia and the admins over there have had enough of it. (discuss) 23:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Log in with a known user account that has an extensive and trusted editing history on one or more wikis if you wish to be taken seriously. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:11, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Do you want to talk to a Wikipedia admin about this? You can head over to Wikipedia yourself and do it. I am not signing up an account here, I stay anonymous, I just wanted to give a heads up about it. I have listed solid evidence of Ben's abuse. Please check his own Wikiversity edits, he links to the content his socks uploaded on Wikipedia [12]. Why do you continue to support this guys abuse at Wikiversity? If you do not want to take me seriously then ok that is a shame, but you should take the SPI seriously, it is a serious matter. Regards. (discuss) 23:18, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, anonymous posts have no value in this discussion. Please move on. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:27, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
See my response - my activities were not disruptive and instead related to archiving info in article history [13]
I will abandon this since any editing on Wikipedia is viewed as disruptive from me apparantly. I hope nobody impersonates me as hostile editors have done in the past.
I would appreciate it if my contributions not be viewed as "spam" or "nonsense", particularly considering that surprisingly much of it comes from mainstream sources that dispute the skeptic-pov.Ben Steigmann (discusscontribs) 23:50, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Ben, your contributions on wikiversity are normally safe, if you stay within certain guidelines -- and you would be warned before being sanctioned if they go outside those guidelines. Normally, that is. What happened a few months ago was that you were impersonated on Wikipedia and the disruptive behavior of those socks fooled Wikipedians into coming here and complaining, and you did not respond... so until checkuser was actually engaged globally, through stewards, the impersonator "won." The IP here is obviously the same person, editing using an open proxy, and Wikipedia doesn't always have the good sense to notice how suspicious it is. Unfortunately, you did actually sock there, even though you thought it was harmless. That gives this attacker a leg up. But this time, the attacker also came here, it was not a Wikipedia admin coming here, and I don't expect a problem from them. Meanwhile, do not sock on Wikipedia. Rather, if you need to put something on Wikipedia, there are ways to do it without violating policy. Ask me. Better, focus on creating the best content here and let Wikipedians worry about Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not the World. --Abd (discusscontribs) 01:26, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Navigation Question[edit]

Hello Dave, I was admiring the navigation in one of your courses (Python Programming). I like the way users can easily navigate from one lesson, e.g., "Introduction", to the next lesson, "Variables," by clicking the hyperlink at the bottom of the page. How might I set that up in the Create a training and development plan course I'm working on? Sorry to have to ask; I haven't found the answer in Wikiversity documentation yet. Captaininfo (discusscontribs) 19:06, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Just create a main page that has links to the subpages you want displayed, in the order you would like the navigation to work. Then include {{subpage navbar}} at the bottom of each subpage. The subpage navbar is smart enough to read the parent page live and generate the navigation itself. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:14, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Perfect, thank you Sir! Captaininfo (discusscontribs) 19:23, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Question about Template:Category sidebar[edit]

Hello Dave, thanks for all your amazing edits on Wikiversity! I came across your work on Template:Category sidebar. I would love to use this in my Wikiversity work. Do you happen to know how recent the "Last Additions" and "Last Edits" are? It would be so helpful to know the exact date of last edit without having to go to page history.

On an somewhat-related note - do you know how I can learn how to create templates as awesome as yours? :) Ongmianli (discusscontribs) 16:48, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:At Template:Category sidebar depends on Module:DynamicPageList, which is based on mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia). I don't see anything that limits the dates by default, so it could be minutes, months, or years. But there is an addfirstcategorydate option that may help. We'd have to experiment with it to see what that generates, and whether there's any way to modify it to make it meaningful for our purposes.
Creating templates is a combination of some coding skills and lots of practice (and frustration). Start small and have a goal. Think of something you'd like to have that doesn't exist yet and then pick a starting example that helps you get there. Read mw:Help:Templates and all of the See also links at the bottom of the page. Re-read them. Read them again as you practice and find that you don't yet understand what you think each part does. Did I mention the frustration part? Expect it, but don't give up because of it. Just try to work around it. Ask for help and suggestions whenever you need them.
Figuring out how to add dates to the category sidebar might be a good first project. I'd experiment with DynamicPageList first in my own sandbox so that I know exactly how it works and how to use the addfirstcategorydate option. Once you have that, look at how to add that to either the existing template or the existing module, depending on what changes are necessary to make it work. And remember, you can't really break anything, at least not permanently. We can always undo to fix it. Be bold! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:14, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Template:At: Thank you so much, Dave! Lots to learn, indeed.. I've been trying to move everything we know about evidence based assessment, and scoring information for the best and free diagnostic screeners to Wikiversity. It's been quite the challenge!!
Here's what I've done as a start, thanks to snooping around your work! :) Evidence based assessment/Preparation phase Ongmianli (discusscontribs) 20:58, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your appreciation[edit]

Hello, I'm happy to see your positive feedback for my message on the Colloquium. I would like to know more precisely if you appreciated the message itself, or in particular the research of programming language internationalisation. Thank you in advance for your answer. --Psychoslave (discusscontribs) 14:36, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:At I appreciate your willingness to ask and your recognition / acceptance of local customs and standards. It says a lot about your approach to collaboration. I've worked briefly on internationalization / localization of content, but haven't had any exposure to internationalization of programming languages themselves. It's an interesting concept, but not one I have time to contribute to right now. I look forward to seeing more as your project develops! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, thank you very much for this clarifications. I hope my contributions will live up to this expectations. :) --Psychoslave (discusscontribs) 16:49, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Federal Writers' Project[edit]

Could you take a look at the FederalWritersProject prefix? I'm not sure how to configure my bot to rename them to Federal Writers' Project - Life Histories and fix the broken links. They should all have template:CourseCat --mikeu talk 02:10, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Template:At 15px Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:59, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

History categories[edit]

We have Category:History of the United States and Category:American History which should be merged, preferably into United States. There are also some oddities like North American History is within the category American History and vice versa. Have we adopted a convention for a history category hierarchy? --mikeu talk 17:36, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

{{#invoke: ping | ping }} Hi--"American" can also be of relation to Central/South America, FYI. Prost. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 17:39, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
It could. But the current arrangement is ambiguous and unclear. I would avoid American and just use North American, South American, and United States. If you want to clump north and south together I would prefer History of the Americas to clarify the scope. The use of American could mean anything from US centric to the entire hemisphere. The Dewey Decimal or LoC scheme is probably something that we should emulate with our structure. See external links at Category:History. --mikeu talk 17:47, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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